What happened to boat design?

Discussion in 'Boat Design' started by HakimKlunker, Sep 13, 2025.

  1. HakimKlunker
    Joined: Aug 2009
    Posts: 284
    Likes: 19, Points: 18, Legacy Rep: 146
    Location: Thailand

    HakimKlunker Andreas der Juengere

    I have been silent here for about 16 years. I needed to study more and to gain more insights.
    I was off to make some yachts of course.
    And what I see unfolding is not necessarily to my liking.
    To vent my frustrations and to find a cure for my depressions I herewith present:

    Feel free to share your thoughts with me, fellows.

    PM1.jpg PM4.jpg
     
    DogCavalry and montero like this.
  2. clmanges
    Joined: Jul 2008
    Posts: 608
    Likes: 161, Points: 43, Legacy Rep: 32
    Location: Ohio

    clmanges Senior Member

    "Crew cabin and engine room are combined" ... lemme guess, they have to sleep on the deck, and the cost of their meals is deducted from their pay ... or are they considered paying passengers?
     
    rwatson likes this.
  3. kapnD
    Joined: Jan 2003
    Posts: 1,539
    Likes: 558, Points: 113, Legacy Rep: 40
    Location: hawaii, usa

    kapnD Senior Member

    I hear they have some really good weeds in Thailand!
     
    rxcomposite, bajansailor and montero like this.
  4. HakimKlunker
    Joined: Aug 2009
    Posts: 284
    Likes: 19, Points: 18, Legacy Rep: 146
    Location: Thailand

    HakimKlunker Andreas der Juengere

    Yay! Someone was reading it :D - I swear that weed was not involved in my creation.
    Nice, if I could cause some smiles, yet...
    The matter goes a little deeper:
    I now enter my 5th decade in boat building. Not trying to dive into nostalgia about ''better days before''... but I see a trend that concerns me. In the plus-50ft-range builders and buyers meanwhile pay more attention to flashy status symbols and accessories heckmeck. Seamanship and safety aspects get pushed into the background. Thanks to ISO and alike, we still don't build (too) dangerous vessels.
    Nevertheless, I have seen concept drawings (that were meant seriously) in which a trip to the bow anchor becomes a suicide mission - or where the helmsman (sorry, ladies) can't see through the wheelhouse windows because huge screens obstruct his vision. Kind of, that is.
    Therefore my title: ''what happened...?''
     
    bajansailor likes this.
  5. bajansailor
    Joined: Oct 2007
    Posts: 3,954
    Likes: 1,838, Points: 113, Legacy Rep: 37
    Location: Barbados

    bajansailor Marine Surveyor

    Was this 'designed' with AI?

    The waterline shown looks very optimistic - there is no buoyancy aft, so she is going to trim down terribly by the stern.

    There are many big fast sportsfishing vessels in existence (ie not just concepts) to which this statement could be applied - narrow sidedecks each side of the superstructure with no guard rails anywhere, not even a pulpit rail at the bow.
     
    BlueBell and mc_rash like this.
  6. montero
    Joined: Nov 2024
    Posts: 734
    Likes: 82, Points: 28
    Location: Poland

    montero Senior Member

    "Business as usual " covers all your doubts. It's the same with cars. Motorcycles are much better now . Some of them don't need lot of improvement.
     
  7. mc_rash
    Joined: Aug 2020
    Posts: 236
    Likes: 69, Points: 28
    Location: Netherlands

    mc_rash Senior Member

    I'm curious about how this boat will planing.

    Considering where the prop shafts enter the hull - the crew cabin aka engine room looks to be placed too much aft
     
  8. gonzo
    Joined: Aug 2002
    Posts: 18,161
    Likes: 2,316, Points: 123, Legacy Rep: 2031
    Location: Milwaukee, WI

    gonzo Senior Member

    It looks like your marketing skill may be good. There is a lot of claims, like "revolutionary", with no data to back it up. They are not even in the drawing. After 5 years you should be doing better.
     
  9. BlueBell
    Joined: May 2017
    Posts: 3,366
    Likes: 1,285, Points: 113
    Location: Victoria BC Canada

    BlueBell . . . _ _ _ . . . _ _ _

    Like heli pads?
     
  10. mc_rash
    Joined: Aug 2020
    Posts: 236
    Likes: 69, Points: 28
    Location: Netherlands

    mc_rash Senior Member

    Revolutionary is the stack of watertoys. Reminds me a bit on my desk when studying
     
  11. gonzo
    Joined: Aug 2002
    Posts: 18,161
    Likes: 2,316, Points: 123, Legacy Rep: 2031
    Location: Milwaukee, WI

    gonzo Senior Member

    What is revolutionary about it? All yachts have a toy garage.
     
  12. mc_rash
    Joined: Aug 2020
    Posts: 236
    Likes: 69, Points: 28
    Location: Netherlands

    mc_rash Senior Member

    HOW it's stacked in the visualization
     
  13. montero
    Joined: Nov 2024
    Posts: 734
    Likes: 82, Points: 28
    Location: Poland

    montero Senior Member

    I'm always surprised of toy deck . Jet Ski or inflatable .
    Nothing more ?
    I watched this summer some sailing vessel . Pairs of skidoos or yamahas going and return to the deck .
     
  14. gonzo
    Joined: Aug 2002
    Posts: 18,161
    Likes: 2,316, Points: 123, Legacy Rep: 2031
    Location: Milwaukee, WI

    gonzo Senior Member

    I can't see anything novel about it, let alone revolutionary.
     
  15. HakimKlunker
    Joined: Aug 2009
    Posts: 284
    Likes: 19, Points: 18, Legacy Rep: 146
    Location: Thailand

    HakimKlunker Andreas der Juengere

    @gonzo - and @all others here:
    see my sarcasm, please: this is the **** that ''marketing people'' come up with. I simply visualized it in a distorted way to demonstrate the absurdity of it :)
    If someone seriously asks me to build this thing I will shoot myself.
     
    mc_rash, bajansailor and fallguy like this.

  • Loading...
    Forum posts represent the experience, opinion, and view of individual users. Boat Design Net does not necessarily endorse nor share the view of each individual post.
    When making potentially dangerous or financial decisions, always employ and consult appropriate professionals. Your circumstances or experience may be different.