A 28'-33' monohull or multihull yacht for transport, for inland and offshore sailing...

[fallguy]

Where will you sail?

 

[montero]

The 33' motor catamaran is drawn for use in the Mediterranean Sea. As above. Rather hot weather conditions .

 

[Quadcat]

I don't agree that most are unsinkable. Maybe the notion comes from the fact that they will float upside down, at least for a while. Remember the Titanic.

If the crew can help you assemble from a trailer, maybe something like a Tiki 30 with a deck tent might do? 6-8 people is often 40ft+ either mono or cat, unless you are French.

Tiki 30 - James Wharram Designs

https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.V9wKROiNBO0qHTBkyMO_dwHaFj?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain&o=7&rm=3

If the crew can help you assemble from a trailer, maybe something like a Tiki 30 with a deck tent might do? 6-8 people is often 40ft+ either mono or cat, unless you are French.

Tiki 30 - James Wharram Designs

https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th/id/OIP.V9wKROiNBO0qHTBkyMO_dwHaFj?rs=1&pid=ImgDetMain&o=7&rm=3

A nice, classic structure...made of plywood. It's cheap and strong, but over time, if we overlook a leak or flooding where the plywood has lost its protective coating (resin or paint), it can be quite a hassle to renovate, but I admit it's not complicated. Assembling it and involving multiple people or a crane isn't a good idea...unless it's done once a year...well, then okay...before and after the season. Otherwise, assembling it periodically during the season is a bad idea.

 

[Quadcat]

To stay on the topic . If you use here e.g. Jeep Cherokee and light trailer ( trailer gross weight 750kg ) you are obligated to pay extra fee for every km of the route even if the car and trailer are empty .

I'm assuming the Jeep + trailer exceeds the GVM of 3500 kg (applies to Poland)?

 

[Quadcat]

I have plan to build very cheap 33' power cat for 2+2 family and I'm stuck a little with road transport options . Need to make another driving licence and I will pay extra for every km I traveled .

Generally, this topic concerns sail-powered yachts, but these are often modified or adapted to function as motor yachts... oh my... for me, freedom is the wind... unless the propulsion comes from solar cells or a wind turbine.

 

[Quadcat]

My grandfather and grandmother, of blessed memory, were both from Czaszyn.

…why I asked

It may be true that 10% of the population in the States is of Polish descent... the great migration during the partitions and during World War I and World War II. For many decades, the Podkarpacie region was neglected and lacked industry.

 

[fallguy]

I’m trying to wrap my head around Montero’s use case. He says Mediterranean, but then worries about transport. Is the transport one time or will he be using the boat in summer each year? Why wouldn’t it be kept at the seashore ?

all friendly questions

 

[montero]

Croatia is nearest Mediterranean country but not cheapest . You will be surprised of wintering fees there . Or marinas fees during the season .
Besides, I'm always in favor of the boat not being in the water all the time.

 

[fallguy]

Is it cheaper to store boat there or trailer it fromWarsaw?

 

[Rumars]

It's a complex equation of time, distance and money, wich everyone solves according to his personal circumstances and preferences.

Depending on where in Poland you start its a 10-15h drive to Croatia. Wich means casually driving over for a sailing weekend isn't very likely. That is only possible with a good plane connection (say 5h door to door) or a direct train connection with sleeping cars. Most people who aren't their own boss will only do it when they are actually on vacation, once or twice a year. You go there, launch your boat, do the time, put the boat back on the hard until next year. Problem is, there's plenty of people willing to do exactly this, so prices reflect demand because there's only so much marina space, and if your boat isn't trailarable it's that or charter.

If one trailers the boat the driving time increases by a few hours (top speed while trailering is limited to 50mph), but the cost structure is different. Boat storage might be free (or very cheap in some rented barn in the countryside) but you might need a different or second car that costs more to aquire and operate (taxes, insurance, inspections), additional drivers licence category, increased toll on some roads, etc. Plus you need to arrange and pay for secure parking for car and trailer while actually sailing. All of this is repaid by greater flexibility, you can change locations as often as you like, you don't need to return to the original launch port (you just take a bus back to bring the car), etc. You might even take advantage of some local sailing venues outside the yearly main trip.

 

[skaraborgcraft]

Plus you need to arrange and pay for secure parking for car and trailer while actually sailing. .

This is not mentioned enough, but it depends on where you are going. A friend had their trailer stolen and the car was "stripped", and his was supposed to be in a "secure" area. I have paid more for daily storage of a 4x4 and trailer, than i would have for a 40ft marina berth.

 

[Quadcat]

I agree with Rumars on many points.

CROATIA is expensive (and it depends on your perspective) when it comes to mooring, berthing, and off-season storage...which is why many people who don't want to be tied to a launching point and have their own equipment bring their own yachts.

As for weekend sailing, of course, it's not so great. Although you can launch your boat and pay for berthing at one of the marinas near the airport, it depends on your needs...and your budget.
Of course, Poles like Croatia for its uniqueness, like-minded people, it's a Catholic country, not yet polluted by migrants ("engineers"), clean water...it's not far, contrary to appearances.
And above all, it's almost always warm there in the season...and the color of the water is perfect for diving; my son loves going there. Owning your own boat, however, gives you freedom... you can plan ahead (except for unexpected events). Chartering is convenient, but it costs more, especially during the period you're interested in. Often, what's priced regularly... is not. During peak season, we're talking about airfare, picking up the yacht, returning it, and supplies. A 7-day charter becomes 5 days, and a weekend... maybe just one (unless, like in Germany, almost everyone finishes work on Friday at 12 noon).

 

[Quadcat]

This is not mentioned enough, but it depends on where you are going. A friend had their trailer stolen and the car was "stripped", and his was supposed to be in a "secure" area. I have paid more for daily storage of a 4x4 and trailer, than i would have for a 40ft marina berth.

Oh, where did this happen?
For 20 years in Poland, I traveled with my yachts to the Masurian lakes – I highly recommend it, freshwater (500-550 km from Krakow), but storing the trailer and car was in a closed area. During the winter season, the yachts were parked there, and during the sailing season, the yachts were kept there – a simple arrangement.
I don't know where you're from exactly, but when I was on my first cruise to Sweden in 1997 (Karlskrona, Öland, Kalmar, Stockholm), no one was securing the bikes at the station near the connections to the city. When I worked in Stockholm in 2012...everyone was already secured with a rope, chain, etc....and even then, not all of them were complete. I can only imagine what the situation is like now.
So, in summary, leaving your equipment unattended is highly risky.

 

[Quadcat]

I'm constantly thinking about how to solve this problem:

Should I buy, build, or rent a yacht?
If it's too small, it'll be uncomfortable.
If it's too big, then again, port fees, repairs, etc., the costs go up.
If it can't be transported, then storing and renovating on site is only an option if someone has a lot of time...in retirement?
That's why everyone's ideas and considerations are interesting...

 

[Quadcat]

Croatia is nearest Mediterranean country but not cheapest . You will be surprised of wintering fees there . Or marinas fees during the season .
Besides, I'm always in favor of the boat not being in the water all the time.

Yes, it's getting more and more expensive... I'm considering Greece... often you don't even pay for berthing, but I'll wait for the Via Carpatia... heh, heh. I also believe that once the yacht is out of the water, I can react earlier and prepare for repairs... it's mainly about safety. This doesn't apply to chartered yachts... but when returning it, there's still the stress of "will they think of something you've missed?" and the bill will sum it up... or the deposit will be forfeited.